[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, yes. But I like to try to get at least a range.

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
ha ha!

And THAT is why I made stuff tickyboxed. Because people feel weird like that (I go back and forth between periods of bisexuality and homosexuality ALL THE DAMN TIME because I'm biromantic, but guys' bodies are just SO GROSS ;______;).

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sort a romantic kinsey 5, if you will?

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That is a good point.

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
...whoa. that's deep.

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Woo!

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! I think next time I do this I may use the kinsey scale.

[identity profile] blindmadness.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, I definitely don't find guys' bodies gross (hello, current very physical relationship with boy!), but I know what you mean in that I find girls' bodies SO MUCH MORE ATTRACTIVE. Like, drastically more so. When I'm admiring attractive boys, I generally just stop at their face (and sometimes maybe hands, because I have a thing for hands), but with girls I'll actually admire them in their entirety. But when it comes to casual crushes on people in my classes, etc., the very great majority is on boys, which I think is probably a holdover from the years where I identified as solely straight. (My crushes on girls when they happen in that form, though, are usually a lot more intense. I have been harbouring a minor, even-if-we-were-both-single-and-you-were-unstraight-this-would-probably-go-nowhere crush on a girl in Writers' House since mid-last year and it will probably not end while we both live here.)

I have been thinking about this kind of thing SO MUCH over the past couple of months, it's nice to be able to discuss it. \o/

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Girls are just so beautiful, they have these gorgeous curves and I just think that I can completely see why artists would draw the female nude, it is the most unbelievably sensual, beautiful thing ever. Whereas guys are just--I mean, I can appreciate a hot guy, but I really don't find them that breathtaking or anything (and their genitalia kind of freak me out). But I agree that my casual crushes tend to be a little more boyoriented because a) they're easier to tell other people about b) they're more likely to pan out and c) I'm socially conditioned to like boys. Although I am totally in love with Liz right now.

XD Tell me about it.

[identity profile] tiamatschild.livejournal.com 2009-09-29 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*props chin in hands* Within the last year I have been forced to come to the conclusion that despite being bisexual, I'm essentially aromantic and constitutionally celibate, which. Great. Good going me! This is so conducive to grandchildren and will make Mom so happy! Which is why I skipped the 'in a relationship' question, because the idea of being in a romantic relationship at all makes me want to move to Antartica to commune with the penguins.

[identity profile] holyschist.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure--I mean, I'm pretty homosocial, too. I can count the number of men I've considered true friends rather than acquaintances on one hand. So that's why I say "emotionally" rather than "romantically"--it's a broader thing for me.

I haven't had enough chances to date women to be totally sure it would carry over romantically, but the idea of pursuing a serious primary relationship with another man should this one not work out is really discouraging. It's a lot easier to find women who are past feminism 101, for one thing, and a lot of things that women understand from experience that men (except perhaps transmen, who have experienced how society treats those perceived as women) can't. So it's easier for me to relate to women in general. Hmm. I'm not really sure how to articulate all this, since I've really only started realizing it recently.

[identity profile] holyschist.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's very cold in Antarctica.

But penguins are cute!

[identity profile] tiamatschild.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
And there are some very interesting marine ecosystems!

[identity profile] blindmadness.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
Guys' bodies are just boring, especially their chests -- there's nothing to catch the eye there. I never really care about guys with their shirts off and there are very few male builds that I find exceptional. And their genitalia are definitely weirder-looking. :( But yeah, now I even feel more comfortable around boys, so I think that's making me more likely to have crushes on girls. Which is a little weird, but kind of a nice change after so long of just significant boy-crushing.

(Also, while I am at it, I'm sorry I've totally failed at commenting to you lately. :( I promise I read everything and I try to send good thoughts your way whenever you seem to need them, so just know that I'm still here and still listening. ♥)

[identity profile] gileonnen.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I see what you're getting at here--I don't like the term 'bisexual' mainly because (as a genderqueer person) I don't like the way that it connotes only two options; however, I recognize that this is an entirely (and unnecessarily?) political statement on my part. For me, pansexuality is an oppositional identity; bisexuals probably mean the same fool thing I do when they self-identify, but they're not the same kind of aggressive about it. ^_~

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
This is really interesting.

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
<3333 Oh Nanni.

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
What is this whole sexuality and romanticism thing, anyway, maja? What is it? I am not down with it.

(Just for the record, there is not a Comment Quota that anybody on my flist is required to meet or anything. :) )

[identity profile] tiamatschild.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs and snugs* I'm not upset about it or anything. Just kind of annoyed that it took me this long: I'd been assuming I'd grow into wanting romance and romantic relationships but, well. It seems unlikely. I don't think I will.

[identity profile] holyschist.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'll probably post something about it at some point when I have time to be all introspective and stuff.

(Thing is, I *do* really like men sexually; haven't had a chance to compare there. :( )

[identity profile] josiana.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
>_>;; Sorry.

[identity profile] holyschist.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm. It probably depends on the bisexual person? Some bisexual people are definitely believers in binary gender. But I haven't surveyed what people mean by bisexual. That would be interesting.

I just personally find "pansexual" to be a really weird term that I'm not comfortable using, although I guess it might be more precise. "Multisexual" is worse.

I actually mostly use "queer" to describe myself as a way of getting around all of that. Instead of struggling to be precise, I will be vague! O_O

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 05:09 am (UTC)(link)
...Why?

[identity profile] rainbowjehan.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
well, as long as you're not upset--!

[identity profile] tiamatschild.livejournal.com 2009-09-30 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
I am not! *cuddles* I mean, I think of the decades of "Oh, you just haven't met the right person," or "Are you seeing anybody? No? Clearly what you want is to see me!" to come and, yes, Antartica starts to look attractive, but you have to live in small bunkers in Antartica, and it would probably be all, "Oh, I have such a nice cousin back home!" So. Probably not worth it. And I am glad I came to this conclusion before I hurt anybody badly, or made myself deeply miserable and hurt other people badly, and all the rest.

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