"I am One of those Melodramatic Fools..."

[psalm_onethirtyone]

I don't know why I'm feeling so tired and sad and things, because I just spent birthday money on several hundred thousand stickers and things to give to people, but--well. And I guess it's partly because I took sleep meds last night, and they won't wear off until about four hours from now. And I have to see Dr. Conti to-morrow, and refill my meds prescription, because I've been going on a three-quarters dose the last week since I ran out of the 10mg. But. I don't know, I feel like crying and just going to sleep now with the pillow over my head. I'm awfully silly.

But instead I shall try to be good, and to make my ridiculous post about Hamlet. I have a ridiculous post to make about Hamlet, since I bought my shiny new copy for thirty-five cents at a yard sale...!

First of all, is absolutely adorable copy. Previous owner was playing Laertes, and has all his lines marked and has staging notes and other notes all over the pages, which I love. One of my favourites, I think, is 'Horatio: wants to die. Hamlet: wants him to set record straight'. In the front of the book, there is a large note that paraphrases the text of the play, and says multiple times that Horatio does things out of his love for Hamlet, or Hamlet trusts Horatio because of his love for him. "Hamlet can love and trust Horatio as no one else," to quote.

The note in front does, however, say that the death of Polonius, as well as those of Gertrude, Claudius, Rosencrantz, Guildenstern, Laertes, and Ophelia, are all examples of poetic and ironical justice, which just makes me wtf. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are totally fall men for Claudius, and Gertrude, for heaven's sake, if one reads the text without a particular interpretation, really hasn't done anything wrong by modern standards. Perhaps it's Elizabethan justice, but I still fail to see the irony in it. Polonius is really not doing anything wrong. In fact, Polonius is just trying to help. >____< I adore Polonius, demmit. It isn't justice for him to die. I think this carries through to Laertes, who really, really is in the same situation as Hamlet--but where Hamlet is too thoughtful, Laertes doesn't think enough. They've just got different flaws. It doesn't make Laertes an antagonist. And aksgjsklgjas lg dj OPHELIA DROWNS. SHE IS INNOCENT, STUPID, AND SHE GOES MAD AND DROWNS. The ironic justice, I see it not. Demmit.

It also mentions the 1772 Garrick Hamlet, which I wish to Heaven I'd seen. Apparently not only does Laertes never leave for France, he is also not involved in the plot to kill Hamlet with a poison sword. During the duel, Claudius tries to intervene and Hamlet runs his through before accidentally falling on Laertes' sword. Horatio tries to kill Laertes in revenge, but Hamlet manages to convince him to rule jointly with Laertes. <333 Also, Gertrude does not die, she goes v. crazy. Eheee.

Incidentally, according to two separate texts of the original Danish legend, Horatio's character was either a servant who wasn't loyal to Feng and therefore hearing his plans with the rest of the servants told them to Amlethus (or Hambleth, if you prefer); or else he was a foster brother to Hamlet.

Back to Laertes' notes on the text. All of these are [sic]. Top of 1.1: "Guards uneasy. Elder Hamlet fought King Fortinbras got territory. young Fortinbras wants his land back."

On such dexterity to incestuous sheets: "Incestuous! Heart is broken with death and marriage."

Polonius' advice to Ophelia: "Gives same advice as Laertes does. STAY CLEAR."

During the Ophelia/Hamlet get thee to a nunnery scene: "Hamlet and Ophelia conversation. Clever and hurts her. What's wrong with him? is he mad and/or crazy?"

Heart's core: "Hamlet admires what about Horatio? judgement and even nature. consistant."

Top of 3.3: "Conversation. send Hamlet to England. why? Hamlet acting crazy changing behavior."

Claudius' praying scene: "King & the murder. ---->he's paranoid. Forgiven stands in way. denounce what he has. comparison with Earthly and Heavenly justice. Can buy off earthly justice but NO BRIBES in Heaven."

Gertrude/Hamlet scene: "Hamlet sees Queen. Polonius spys on them for King. Hamlet kills Polonius. Ghost calls. Hamlet leaves mother alone. Mom thinks he's crazy."

Later: "Ophelia goes crazy. (Really!!)"

And, finally: "Return of Fortinbras with Drums. Hamlet ---> he dies. Fortinbras to be King."

--Oh, by the way, zomg. According to Historica Danica, Daddy!Fortinbras' name is Collere. That sounds decidedly French to me, which is making me wonder if it was the basis for Shakespeare's naming Fortinbras, the Prince of Norway, something so obviously French. But I'm just theorising uselessly, I suspect. :D

My other version of Hamlet I have not been all the way through yet. It is slightly less opinionated than the one above as regards the deaths and character interactions. It also thinks v. highly of Hamlet, and is always remarking upon his amazing witticisms, which makes me gigglesnort.

Also it's all "akfjslgjsl OMG DO NOT TAKE GERTRUDE'S 'HE IS FAT AND SCANT OF BREATH' LINE LITERALLY, FOR THE LOVE OF DOG. ;______________;!!! HAMLET IS NOT FAT!!! WE SAW A PLAY WHERE HE WAS FAT. IT SCARRED OUT BRAINS SO MUCH. WE CANNOT BREATHE. NONONONONO. THE PLAY IS NOT HAMLET, THE (CORPULENT) PRINCE OF DENMARK. *aneurysm*". > > It should not make me giggle.

This is all for now. We shall seek not to be so very caviar to the generallish next time we post.

Comments

[erinpuff]

LMAO, other people's notes in books are the best. ^____^

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

They aaaaaaaaaaare. I love. ^_________^

[erinpuff]

I borrowed a book from my Spanish professor last semester to write a paper on, and he had already underlined all the important bits. ^^

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Hee! I imagine that helped. ^_____^

[bewareofitalics]

...eeee. Those sound like so much fun. I should take more notes in my scripts. *g*

Also, a big O.o to Horatio co-ruling with Laertes. Wow.

(Also, hello, mental image of Forti with bongos...)

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

You should! Then I will collect them later on.

XD I think it sounds v. shiny. I should write it.

(XD!)

Also, Collere?

[bewareofitalics]

Hee! Usually I just write things like X, UC, DL, etc. Though actually, looking at my Beauty and the Beast and Snow White scripts, which I happened to have handy, I used to write more. Such as, "run away eep!" and "little rich dance w/Greedo 'Rich! Rich! Rich! Rich!'"

...yes. Yes, you should.

Collere! Was that, like, a first name, or would Forti be Young Collere? ...and if it is French, I wonder if it has anything to do with "colere," the word for anger. Ooo.

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

I think that's terrible, Miss Lillie. I disapprove. -- XD Rock on.

:D

That was a first name, insomuch as they didn't have last names (Hamlet's father was actually Horvendil). There isn't actually a Forti in the original myth. But eeee, neat.

[bewareofitalics]

Fine, from now on I will write very scholarly things, like, "Noooo, don't marry the scary lady! Be a Gay Pirate Extraordinaire!"

...aw, you've made Forti all sad. But not too sad, cause Daddy!

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

^____________________^ PERFECT.

...Daddy wants you to know that he is C. Fortinbras from now on.

[bewareofitalics]

And if I ever do The Crucible again, "Abby's a h0r!"

...very nice. Should I change his Illyria Prep name to Christopher or something? *g*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

*cracks up*

...not if you don't want to. XD

[bewareofitalics]

And if I get in A Christmas Carol next semester, "I'M JEWISH WHAT AM I DOING HERE?"

...I'll think about it. *g*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

That... that would be excellent.

[bewareofitalics]

*g* It'll be like the time I wrote on the front of a script at camp, "This script belongs to a chorus member who does NOTHING."

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Lillie. You are one of the best people liek EVAR.

[bewareofitalics]

Even though I was a chorus member in a show that wasn't supposed to have a chorus and therefore did nothing? *g*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

You betcha.

[bewareofitalics]

Oh! *beams*

[silverdragon262.livejournal.com]

I adore my copy of Amleth. :D It is shiny. Also, I just got it from the bookcase to doublecheck and it does have the foster brother. :D

Is 'Coller' Latin for something, perhaps? Saxo wrote in Latin, of course, and already Latinised the names. If Fortinbras is French, though, it may have more to do with the fact that Shakespeare's source was probably the Ur-Hamlet), whose source was probably Belleforest, who was French.

...you're probably glad that Shakespeare changed the fate of Polonius. XD

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Mine is just v. short paraphrase in the back of the Hamlet.

Let me check. --Nope. No Latin equivalent. Closest you get is colligere, which is something like 'to compose' or 'to harvest'.

I am. so. damn. glad.

[silverdragon262.livejournal.com]

Mine is in a bit book of English legend. It also has Beowulf (which I also have in Old English) and the original story to King Lear. I will show you sometime?

Hmmm. coller. French, from coller, to glue, from colle, glue, from Vulgar Latin *colla, from Greek kolla.

I'm not. :_______; he will stay til you come.

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

ooooooh, that is so shiny! Yes, please! ^____________^

I don't quite think so. Oddly enough, the Latin collare simply means 'collar', which is bizarre, because an -ire, -ere, -are, or e-with-a-line-over-it-re usually always imply verbs. Colligare is 'to connect politically' and collidere is 'to destroy'. There are actually no similar words that are nouns, adjectives, adverbs, &c.

Guh. By the way, Titus wouldn't happen to be 1999 with Anthony Hopkins?

[silverdragon262.livejournal.com]

Also King Arthur and some other various shinies. It's a big book and I've yet to read it all. :D I will try to remember to share.

Well, that's the etymology given by The American Heritage Dictionary, but that's all I know. The OED, however, lists coller as being from O. Fr. 'to glue' and from the Greek directly, so perhaps the VL is assumed? ...but I obviously have too much time on my hands. Either way, it's definitely French and from Greek.

...XD That's the one.

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Shiny shiny shiny! Eeeeee! ^____^

...and I don't? Okay. We'll leave it at that. :D

Right.

[silverdragon262.livejournal.com]

Very, Miss. ^____^

...either way, Daddy!Forti's name means 'to glue'. XD (Well, it might. XD The electronic translation I have uses 'Coller,' the print one I have uses 'Koller' and yours uses 'Collere'. XD Maybe it is from cholere and maybe it's not from any.) Yay for too much time on hands?

...Any reason?

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

<333

Daddy!Forti says he'd rather not think of it that way, thank you. :D God knows. Of course!

...So I can avoid it.

[silverdragon262.livejournal.com]

^______^!

XD Poor Daddy!Forti.

...Ah. XD It's good.

[gileonnen.livejournal.com]

You know, I never really cared at all about Laertes until I had to be him and now I keep thinking, "He's not evil! He's not even mean! He's just really, really stressed!" And you're totally right, he's just like Hamlet really, except he's got a sister and that changes everything. Hamlet doesn't have anyone to take care of (I certainly don't count his mother), so he doesn't have anyone who might be hurt by his delaying to find out the truth; Laertes is worried that every second leaves his sister in greater danger, and the idea that she's totally gone . . . well, it breaks him and turns him into a more choleric Hamlet, essentially, who makes plans in secret and needs a confidant because he's really and truly all alone. He acts more like Hamlet when he no longer has anything or anyone to lose.

Also this guy has odd but interesting notes--I normally don't take notes in books because I am desperately afraid for them, I worry that others won't like that someone else has been at the book before them and imposed alien opinions and emphasis on the text . . . but really, this is just amusing, so perhaps I shall start writing in books after all.

. . . and stop writing in the comment box. ^^;;; *loves!*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Exactly. Thank you. Exactly. <333333 Thank you for understanding. I love Laertes--I wrote a v. short thing with him once, let me try to find it--here (http://rainbowjehan.livejournal.com/521721.html#cutid1), that was easy. :D--in which Laertes is--well. nyeh. just read it. *hides*

I know. XD I love them. But--I do like reading notes. Notes are fun. <3333

Pssh. You know I like your comments. Love your comments. By the way, see whatthedenmark.

[gileonnen.livejournal.com]

GAH WHO IS DEAD DID HE KILL ME?!

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

THANK GOD HE DID NOT KILL YOU. HE'S HAVING A RILLY BAD SPELL. HE WENT TO A CEMETERY. AND ALSO HAS NOT TAKEN HIS MEDICATIONS FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS, SECRETLY. AND ALSO WAS GOING THROUGH HIS FATHER'S THINGS, AND ALSO ACCIDENTALLY CUT HIMSELF ON SOMETHING. AND ALSO, DEMMIT, HE IS A BASKET CASE.

[gileonnen.livejournal.com]

. . . thank goodness. *lovesonyou and is sorry for capslocking?*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

*lovesback and giggles--capslocking is fun. no, really ^__^* Er, yes. Er. *hides* I'm going to bed now.

[gileonnen.livejournal.com]

Goodnight!

[little-lady-d.livejournal.com]

... one of those melodramatic fools, i know ...

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

:D Exactly.

[little-lady-d.livejournal.com]

XD is he just paranoid? -- or just stoned?

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Stoned, all the way.

[little-lady-d.livejournal.com]

figures. :3

[karla-yonit.livejournal.com]

I don't like getting books with notes in them, though perhaps my opinion might be different if the notes were that entertaining. And I don't make many notes in anything, even in scripts where I should. Some form of neurosis- any note I make is in very light pencil and erased completely as soon as I no longer need it.



*hides*

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Well, I'm the same way, actually. I mean, I adore getting books with notes in them, but I hate actually putting notes in books myself.

*ex-dees liberally*